That’s understandable, especially with the degree of showmanship and theater of an Erasure performance.
AB: In the beginning, I was all guns blazing. I wanted to be as out as out could be, especially when we were on stage. There was no question about my sexuality whatsoever. After a while, you start thinking, “What’s the big deal?” There are so many people younger than you giving great energy. You just want to come into your own character and just be — and I don’t use this word often, sophisticated. You want to become like a statesperson within your performance.
That’s an elusive place to arrive in any artist’s life, in any medium.
AB: Songwriting is a tricky thing. But this time, for the first time in a long time, I really felt like it clicked instantly. Being an artist and growing up and having confidence in yourself, it doesn’t matter if you don’t get played. It doesn’t matter if you’re not embraced by the music industry. It’s always the latest sensation. That’s just how it is. For a while, I was quite envious and jealous of that. One of my worst traits was jealousy, and I hate that. That feeling is so embarrassing, and it’s so apparent on your face. You can’t hide it. But then you just grow up.
There have been many positive changes toward the LGBTQIA community. At the same time, shows like Pose are tracing the trajectory of what the community has experienced, particularly with AIDS. What’s your take on that?
AB: I’ve been living with AIDS since 1998. It’s really amazing the things we’ve been through. We did so many things in our past, like me and [Bronski Beat’s] Jimmy Somerville protesting on the steps of Euston Station. I would be walking around New York and come upon an Act Up demonstration, feeling scared and exhilarated at the same time. You forget, but there’s footage and photos of all of it. Creatively, it’s been amazing having people like RuPaul and RuPaul’s Drag Race becoming mainstream. At the same time, there is no utopia. We’ve made tremendous strides, but there are always going to be opposing forces.
Vince, as an original member of Depeche Mode, you’re a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame inductee this year. Does that mean anything to you?
VC: Not really. I’m glad for the Depeche Mode boys. They really deserve it and worked really hard to get there. I don’t like the name. I don’t think Erasure is a rock and roll band. If there were a Pop Hall of Fame, I would be very happy to be in there.