M.I.A. curated this year’s Meltdown Festival in London, and she got her old opening act/pal Julian Assange to appear remotely for a panel on “the complexities of global activism and art in a changing world.” The panel also included Sre?ko Horvat and Slovenian philosopher/living meme Slavoj Žižek, who joined M.I.A. in the flesh.
Watch part of their discussion below.
This article originally appeared on Stereogum.