Spencer Pratt

What songs are you working on now?
I'm working on a mix tape with DJ Whoo Kid that I'm thinking of calling The Info Wars. The first single is gonna be called "Patriot Act," and that's just going to be all about how Americans have given up so many rights that we're not even aware of. That's the problem with me: I have so many real, raw, emotional things that affect me so much about what's going on in politics that I wanna rap about -- yet I also want to rap about the fun things that I love about life. I'm really stuck in the middle as an artist.

That must be hard for you.
If I came at you with how I really felt; like if you really heard a Spencer Pratt record, people would be like arresting me, it would be so controversial. I'm nervous as an artist to really go where my heart's telling me I need to go.

Where's your heart telling you to go?
I wanna talk about the climate bill getting passed in the senate without people even reading it, and scientists saying global warming is a myth and all this stuff. Then there's the one trillion dollars that Al Gore is trying to get everyone to spend so that it will maybe offset his supposed global warming by like 1 percent. As a taxpayer, I'm just like, "Yo, you guys are making up things." Like for Bush it was oil, and now Obama it's energy. It makes me sick.

Um, when will the album come out?
I'm assuming I'll probably launch it near The Hills premiere date which is 9/21. Maybe I'll get real controversial and drop it on 9/11 and go do one of my songs about how 9/11 was an inside job. My whole thing is that I want you to understand how crazy I am. People can't handle it.

Be honest: how much of what you say do you actually believe?
I have a book coming out in September called How to Be Famous. There's a chapter in it called "Everything You Need to Do to Become a Tabloid Fixture." So you would think that everything I do has an ulterior motive.

Have you lost the ability to have a genuine, non-manipulative interaction with a stranger?
Since I was born, I've been calculating. That's my version of being genuine. Life is like chess. I'm always moving pawns around. So you used the word "genuine" -- of course it's always genuine. But I'm still the best chess player in the media game right now.

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Help me understand your behavior on a practical level. If someone comes up to you at a bar, are you immediately thinking about how to manipulate that person towards some goal of yours?
That would depend if the cameras were rolling or not. If they were, then yes, 100 percent I'm manipulating you. I got a 180 I.Q. So I'm definitely not just talking out my you know what. But A) I'm definitely not in a bar, and B) I'm not talking to you unless you're my close friend or a family member, so I probably wouldn't have struck up a conversation with anyone.

So what comes after rap?
My therapist said that with my ADHD -- which is obviously a made-up thing by the government -- I'm always chasing the next high. I agree. I'm never satisfied. I'm never happy with just executive producing reality shows or just writing a book or working on my album or being on a TV show or maybe being a politician. So obviously I want to continue chasing the biggest thing. Right now hip-hop music is the biggest thing in our culture, so of course I'm going to dive headfirst in the deep end on that. We'll see in five years where America is. I'll be wherever the new hottest thing is.

But aren't the people we remember the ones who made a great film or recorded a great album and not the people chasing the next media fad?
I'm definitely thinking about that. But unfortunately, the reality of where we're at is that people don't care who made the greatest stuff. To the average middle-American person, the new best movie is Transformers. How are you gonna compare that to a Braveheart? You can't. That's why Spencer Pratt is such a pioneer in the future on planet Earth because I'm more famous than president Barack Obama. I'll say that to President Obama's face. My portrait is higher than his on the wall at Wolfgang Puck's Cut restaurant. That's such a statement. Spencer Pratt is above the President of the United States in fame. No matter what I say or do from here on out, I've imprinted myself on the culture. Ask somebody why I'm famous, they'll say I'm annoying or have a big mouth, but there's no tangible thing.

A rap album is a tangible thing. If that album fails, won't it tarnish your brand?
I see what you're saying, but our world is so Twittered out. People care about something for ten seconds. I'm okay if someone cares about me for ten seconds. That's tangible. If I'm in your mouth, that's tangible.

[Pratt asks his wife Heidi when they're going out for lunch]

Where are you going for lunch?
Probably Café Vida. That's something America doesn't know about me. I've eaten two chicken burritos every day for lunch for the last three years. Nobody even knows that Spencer Pratt lives off chicken burritos. Think about how many more fans I'll have when people find that out.

You obviously know that people expect you to be outlandish and say extreme things. Does that ever bother you? Isn't it a bit "Dance-Monkey-Dance."
I'll say this: I love that I'm the first person your editor wants you to go to when they want publicity. They know that Spencer Pratt will give the readers what they want. The realness. The rawness. I say what's in my heart at that time. If you ask me about Michael Jackson right now, I'll tell you that he was one of the greatest performers of all time. But focusing on his death -- and that's part of life, death is part of life -- it was shocking and everything, but what's even more shocking to me is the death of our political system. A 1300-page climate bill can get passed when senators are begging you to read it because it's a pile of shit. North Korea's saying they're gonna throw a big nuclear missile at Iran and everyone's talking about moonwalking?

What's the difference between someone paying attention to Michael Jackson's death and paying attention to you?
Perfect. Perfect. Perfect. I do feel like I'm part of what's wrong. We're on the exact same page. I apologize to America for being part of the media distraction. My goal now is to talk about things people are afraid to talk about. That's why my album will be called Info Wars. I want to bring things to the water cooler that wouldn't be brought in unless I did it. "I'm a Celebrity, Get me Out of Here" was pre-Spencer Pratt enlightenment. "I'm a Celebrity, Get me Out of Here" is what's wrong with America. It should really be, "I'm a Christian, Get me in Here to Save the Day."