Rivers Cuomo was the guest on the latest episode of the behind-the-scenes music podcast Song Exploder, and the Weezer frontman walked host Hrishikesh Hirway through the writing and recording of “Summer Elaine and Drunk Dori,” off of the band’s latest self-titled album. It turns out Cuomo has an elaborate, somewhat odd writing process, involving tons of spreadsheets of accumulated title ideas and random, cast-off lyric fragments, and several private a cappella jam sessions where he makes embarrassing noises behind strictly enforced closed doors. Hear how Cuomo and the rest of the band do it in the episode below.

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